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Andy Smith in conversation with Debra Heslin, NLP Trainer, High Performance Coach, and Yoga teacher.
Here are some of the things we talk about:
- Jack Canfield’s work (you may know him as the Chicken Soup For The Soul guy) is mostly based on NLP
- Corporates can benefit from NLP (even something as simple as a representational systems test)
- There’s some interesting real-time interactive technology out there now for corporate training
- ‘Cause and Effect‘: reasons and excuses vs results
- What to do when you’re hanging off a cliff and you can’t find your next handhold
- All of a sudden, a decent online NLP Practitioner training is possible after all!
- An exercise for using submodalities to enhance a resourceful stateHow to use questions to influence someone’s state
- A brief intervention from Dakota the golden retriever
- … and much more!
We talked extensively about submodalities for enhancing a resourceful state – here’s a submodalities checklist you can download for visual, auditory, and kinaesthetic submodalities.
(For more about submodalities, check out this introductory article)
We mentioned a couple of previous interviewees – you can hear the interview with Doug O’Brien here, and Gemma Bailey of NLP4Kids here.
You can find Debra, and details of her upcoming online NLP Practitioner training, at https://debraheslinwellness.com/.
Duration: 32m 44s
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